A guide to the lengths of flutesIf you're wondering about buying an old flute from an antique shop or internet site, you do need to make sure it's at the pitch you want to play at. You can get a rough idea from the length of the flute, from end to end, or the "sounding length" of the flute, from middle of the embouchure hole to the far end. This page lists the lengths of the most usual types of flutes you might encounter. Overall lengthThis is perhaps the least useful of all, but one that is given most often. Sounding LengthThis is the distance from the middle of the embouchure hole to the end of the flute. Again, not particularly helpful as different makers allowed different amounts of spare length on the tuning slide. It's really an indicator of the highest pitch a flute can play, not where it's best tuned. McGee Indicator, C# to D#I prefer this measurement as it tells us more about the
tuning of the body and foot of the flute than the others. C# and D#
were chosen after a lot of consideration - see: [Historical note - I actually have since seen these measurements included in some advertisements!] Anglo-centric, 19th CenturyThe lengths below are mostly for English flutes in the 19th century, as that is my area and period of speciality. I'm happy to include figures for other kinds of flutes if supplied. Pitch naming conventionsA lot of confusion arises in the naming of flutes by pitch. The modern practice of naming the flute leads to immense problems when applied to earlier instruments. I'm using the time-honoured convention, calling the flute by its "6 fingers covered" note. If there is an extension below that note, I also give the lowest note achieved by that extension. So an 8-key conical flute is a D flute with C foot. The expression High Pitch refers to the period in England (2nd half 19th century) where playing pitch reached 452 to 455 Hz, before being pulled back to 440 Hz. Cylindrical Multi-key flutesI've made a separate table for cylindrical multi-key flutes, by which I mean Boehm, Carte, Radcliff, cylindrical Clinton flutes, etc. Old system cylindrical bore flutes seem to fit better among the conicals (historically) and have been left there for now. Range versus Single valueYou'll notice I've given a range for some and a single value for others. That was in order to get the chart up quickly. If you find your flute falls outside the range, let me know and I'll expand it, thus making the chart more accurate and more useful to everybody. Imperial conversionsThe lengths above are given in mm. If you prefer to
think in Imperial, divide these by 25.4. If you'd rather cm, divide
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| Conical & old system flutes | Overall Length | Sounding Length | McGee Indicator C# to Eb |
| 1 - 4 key concert flute, D | 610 | 530 | 257-262 |
| 6 and 8-key concert flute, D with C foot, early 19th C |
675-677 | 595-603 | 261-264 |
| Ditto, Improved style | 638-660 | 567-585 | 252-258 |
| Ditto, Perfected style | 650-660 | 567-578 | 244-249 |
| 8 key cylindrical old system | 658 | 569 | 249 |
| ditto, High Pitch body | 652 | 574 | 240 |
| Conical multi-key flutes, Clinton, Carte, etc |
647-660 | 574-577 | 254-256 |
| Conical & old system flutes in other sizes | Overall Length | Sounding Length | McGee Indicator C# to Eb |
| D piccolo, conical | 302-308 | 252-258 | 119-123 |
| Eb piccolo, conical | |||
| Bb band flute | 390 | 328 | 152 |
| F band flute with F foot | |||
| F band flute with Eb foot | 565 | 490 | 210 |
| ditto, High Pitch | 490 | 410 | 189 |
| Eb band flute | 605 | 527 | 236 |
| Bb bass band flute, 4 key with Bb foot |
748 | 656 | 295.5 |
| Bb bass band flute 6-8 key with Ab foot |
819 | 729 | 303 |
| Cylindrical multi-key flutes | Overall Length | Minimum Emb to A | Sounding Length | McGee Indicator C# to Eb |
| Boehm cylinder flute, Nos #1 & 2 |
319 | 590.5 | 251.5 | |
| Ditto, early French (Lot, Godfroy) |
315-324 | 584 - 595 | 251.4 - 254.4 | |
| Rudall Carte, early model | 639 | 310 | 582 | 253 |
| Rudall Carte, later High Pitch | 654 | 312 | 579 | 249 |
| Rudall Carte, 1940's | 678 | 324 | 599 | 259 |
| US Boehm style flute, 1970's | 672 | 326 | 603 | 258 |
| Powell Cooper scale, #4434 | 670 | 327 | 598 | 256.4 |
| Modern scale according to Wye |
255 | |||
| Revised Cooper Scale, A=441 Bennett, Spell & Wye, March 2011 | 253.7 |
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Another factor affecting sounding length is playing style - there seems to be ample evidence that the English players turned the head in, largely covered the hole and blew down, while Boehm advocated more like the modern classical in line, hole open, blowing across style. So English flutes would need to be pushed in further for the same pitch. Note the dramatic increase in both scale and sounding length in the 20th century. This is partly lowering of pitch, but also adoption of the modern playing style. Indeed, something very odd indeed happened in the 20th century - the flute scale became too long for the pitch at the time. The 258mm C# to Eb length is taken from an Armstrong Model 90 in the McGee Flutes Research Collection. While it is sometimes argued that 20th century makers used Boehm's or other early maker's scale, this does not appear to be the case - the 258mm scale is longer than any of the others listed. It is quite likely that a later French A= 435 scale was used, but with the head shortened to make it appear to play at 440. This shoddy work was corrected in the late 20th century by Cooper et al. Note that the ratio of the C# to Eb lengths for post-Cooper and for the 1970's flute (255/258) is almost precisely the same as the ratio of 435 and 440 Hz. Help Needed!You'll notice a few gaps in the chart above, in addition to the single values where a range would be more realistic. If you can help, please feel free to contact me. AcknowledgementsThanks to Charles C. Stevens, amateur flutist, Anaheim, CA for the data on the Powell flute, and to all the others, too many to mention, who have assisted in compiling this chart. Back to McGee-Flutes Home Page
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